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Grand Rapids releasing GPS LPV approach capability (Read 489 times)
Apr 16th, 2018 at 8:03am

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Is this the crack in the IFR GPS TSO armor?  We all know the Dynon 2020 GPS receiver meets the specs, and now Dynon is marketing to the spam can crowd.  Is a SkyView IFR solution cooking in the back room?

Im about four months out on pulling the trigger on an Avidyne IFD440 to go with the new dual SkyVIew install on the RV-8 project.  I would much prefer not dumping the money into this box.

So for the good folks at Dynon, anything on the horizon that you can tell us about?

Carl
 
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Reply #1 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 8:48am

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This is an oft repeated topic that always ends with the same response, which is due to FAA regulations/requirements for the database and associated software to meet said requirements. It has little to do with the GPS receiver but is involved, of course.

Those that have commented who worked in the field have suggested many millions of dollars to meet (and continually meet) those requirements.

For Dynon to see a market here, we would need to see major changes by the FAA and few see that happening due to the risk involved with lowered standards.

If looking for a cost effective way to fly IFR, that would be NAV radio or older, non-WAAS IFR navigator.
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Reply #2 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 10:01am

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RayInGA wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 8:48am:
This is an oft repeated topic that always ends with the same response, which is due to FAA regulations/requirements for the database and associated software to meet said requirements. It has little to do with the GPS receiver but is involved, of course.

Those that have commented who worked in the field have suggested many millions of dollars to meet (and continually meet) those requirements.

For Dynon to see a market here, we would need to see major changes by the FAA and few see that happening due to the risk involved with lowered standards.

If looking for a cost effective way to fly IFR, that would be NAV radio or older, non-WAAS IFR navigator.


My points on this:
- Dynons recent success on moving the EIFS products into the spam can TSO world tells me the FAA has finally opened their eyes to new capabilities that where held back by unnecessary oversight burden.  With luck the FAA will adopt more streamline approaches to meet their oversight mission.
- I do not imply we should have reduced IFR navigation standards.  We should however have evident based recourse on how those standards are met (as in data, not volumes of useless paper to satisfy the outdated bureaucracy).
- If Grand Rapids sees a market, Id be very surprised if Dynon is not paying attention.

Carl
 
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Reply #3 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 4:56pm

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Carl, to directly answer your question, there is nothing on the horizon. The Avidyne IFD440 is a great GPS Navigator, and our best advice would be to purchase and use it.
 

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Reply #4 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 10:00pm

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RayInGA wrote on Apr 16th, 2018 at 8:48am:
If looking for a cost effective way to fly IFR, that would be NAV radio or older, non-WAAS IFR navigator.
I installed a KLN-90B I got dirt cheap on eBay, not for IFR, but to push the positive-fix timing out to the IFR-permitted 2 hours.

Works a treat, you can see the KLN's flight plan on the SkyView map page, and with a few cheap custom-etched rocker switches as annunciators you could have your TSO'd GNSS for well under 1AMU.
 
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