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Oct 2nd, 2018 at 6:12am

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Foreflight just announced support for expanded ADSB weather products, does Dynon support these on Skyview and forward them to Foreflight? If not is this on the upgrade path for future SW?
 
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Reply #1 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 5:20pm

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The raw FIS-B data, including the expanded weather, should just pass through. Note that there are some peculiarities with SkyView-ForeFlight Traffic/Weather integration that won't be solved until our next (15.4) release. But then, it should work. Note that we haven't tested this ourselves to date.
 

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Reply #2 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 11:28pm

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Never mind Foreflight...what about *Skyview*?  Does/will SV display the new weather products?
 
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Reply #3 - Oct 3rd, 2018 at 8:03am

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Dynon Avionics wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 5:20pm:
Note that there are some peculiarities with SkyView-ForeFlight Traffic/Weather integration that won't be solved until our next (15.4) release.


Any idea on timing?  Will we see 15.4 in 2018?
 
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Reply #4 - Oct 3rd, 2018 at 5:06pm

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Yes, SkyView will support the new wx products, but it's not in the next release.

15.4 is definitely 2018.
 

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Reply #5 - Oct 4th, 2018 at 3:52am

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I understand that SkyView is not transmitting any 3rd party traffic data e.g. from Air Avionics TRX1500 over WiFi, right? Any plans to change this in the near future?
 
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Reply #6 - Oct 4th, 2018 at 4:34pm

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I don't believe there are current plans to change this. The ADS-B-based traffic/wx is essentially "passed through" in its native format, whereas various other formats would need to be individually converted and repackaged into something that apps can consume (such as the GDL format).
 

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Reply #7 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 2:02pm

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Dynon Avionics wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 5:06pm:
15.4 is definitely 2018.


Dynon, can you comment on this prior statement?  Is it still true?
 
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Reply #8 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 6:07pm

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We think so. Testing is wrapping up on those features.
 

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Reply #9 - Jan 2nd, 2019 at 10:59am

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Eagerly awaiting 15.4  Wink
 
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Reply #10 - Jan 13th, 2019 at 1:15pm

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krw5927 wrote on Jan 2nd, 2019 at 10:59am:
Eagerly awaiting 15.4† Wink


On time.  Within budget.  Bug free.

On a good day you get two out of three.  Always opt for the third rather than fly with the first when rushed.
 
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Reply #11 - Jan 28th, 2019 at 12:17pm

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Dynon Avionics wrote on Dec 5th, 2018 at 6:07pm:
We think so. Testing is wrapping up on those features.



And...? Smiley
 
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Reply #12 - Feb 1st, 2019 at 7:36am

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Dynon Avionics wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 5:06pm:
15.4 is definitely 2018.


Another month come and gone.  Dynon, can you please comment on when we will see 15.4 and the promised wireless TIS-B/FIS-B integration with Foreflight?
 
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Reply #13 - Feb 1st, 2019 at 12:31pm

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krw5927 wrote on Feb 1st, 2019 at 7:36am:
Dynon Avionics wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 5:06pm:
15.4 is definitely 2018.


Another month come and gone.


Give 'em a break.† Yesterday Garmin released new software for the AERA 660 GPS and they were not able to include support for the new FIS-B weather products yet.

http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showpost.php?p=1321241&postcount=1

From Garmin:

"For those of you anxiously awaiting new FIS-B weather products, that feature didn't quite make it into this release, but is still planned in a future software release. We appreciate your patience."
« Last Edit: Feb 1st, 2019 at 12:32pm by RV8JD »  
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Reply #14 - Feb 1st, 2019 at 7:04pm

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RV8JD wrote on Feb 1st, 2019 at 12:31pm:
krw5927 wrote on Feb 1st, 2019 at 7:36am:
Dynon Avionics wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 5:06pm:
15.4 is definitely 2018.


Another month come and gone.


Give 'em a break.† Yesterday Garmin released new software for the AERA 660 GPS and they were not able to include support for the new FIS-B weather products yet.

http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showpost.php?p=1321241&postcount=1

From Garmin:

"For those of you anxiously awaiting new FIS-B weather products, that feature didn't quite make it into this release, but is still planned in a future software release. We appreciate your patience."


I'm not asking for the new weather products.  Dynon has already stated support for those would not be in 15.4.  Only asking for Skyview to send its traffic and weather to Foreflight over WiFi.† This was a promised feature in 15.4, which itself was promised in 2018.

I certainly hope merely asking for an updated ECD isn't too much to ask.

AFS is light years ahead of Skyview.† They seem to be incorporating new features while Skyview stagnates to focus on the certified market.
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Reply #15 - Feb 2nd, 2019 at 10:11pm

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I appreciate support sharing that a new release is coming out shortly, and as a result patiently await when they are ready. If we harass them about missing dates they wonít give us a heads up next time.
As for the focus on certified, could be a reason for the longer releases and lack of third party support. I recall the old Dynon when they Considered it, now when I ask to get my uavionox to be seen on display Iím told it isnít possible, I understand the conflict of interest, but itís also cost prohibitive going with dynon mode s compared to meeting the adsb compliance at a much lower price range. New releases arenít nearly as exciting as it used to be so 15.4 may add something but Iím not using foreflight so 15.4 probably adds nothing new I canít wait for.
 
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Reply #16 - Feb 4th, 2019 at 6:07am

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reidvaitor wrote on Feb 2nd, 2019 at 10:11pm:
I recall the old Dynon when they Considered it, now when I ask to get my uavionox to be seen on display Iím told it isnít possible, I understand the conflict of interest, but itís also cost prohibitive going with dynon mode s compared to meeting the adsb compliance at a much lower price range. New releases arenít nearly as exciting as it used to be so 15.4 may add something but Iím not using foreflight so 15.4 probably adds nothing new I canít wait for.


You hit the nail on the head.  While Advanced Flight Systems accepts and displays GDL-90 compatible ADSB-in from any source and now even talks with the Garmin G5 to use it as a redundant AHRS source, Dynon remains steadfast in its refusal to play cross-platform with anyone, meanwhile letting its own product stagnate.
 
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